neil: you know ronald reagan asked that in 1980. mitt romney is set to is that in next debate. some say it's not so simple, we're off of the worst of the meltdown so, technically better than those days but also 5 trillion deeper in debt, so we're worse, then housing and retail sales, that muddy it somewhat. there is a piece of data that is stark in its consistancey for barack obama cutting to the core of this country fragility. household income is falling, how much of a factor will it have on this election. to former fed governor randal, and advisory joannie, who they make on this, randal, how big of an impact. >> this is important, average americans have not made progress over last few years, some is due to statistics because average households a little bit smaller overtime. also we have more people on lower incomes but living off their savings, this is a mayor challenge and makes people feel uncomfortable. neil: what is interesting that goes into this, our portfolio our income, president will argue, well, yes, tech neckly but in the -- technically but in the last few months w